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Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.18 16:12:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Marcus Ichiro wrote:dexington wrote:So the guy that find wrecks with 74 plex each day does not have an advantage over the guy never finds any?, don't really make a lot of sense... The guy that finds a wreck with 74 plex in didn't pay to get that advantage. He played the game. The guy who buys 74 plex didn't play the game to get that advantage. He paid for it.  malcovas Henderson wrote:
What advantage does a player buying a 16 mil SP alt gain over a 16mill SP player?
Didn't have to spend 2 years on training his char. "But being 2 years faster than me is bla bla blaa Q.Q", yea yea. Not gonna bother anymore. You people believe what you want to believe. If you just acknowledged the truth, it would just remind you of how little your ingame achievements matter. So go make up your next fanboy defence based on nothing but wishful thinking and self-delusion. EDIT: Maybe you'll see the truth when the last PLEX on the market has been bought up and it's empty. Then see how long you're going to keep playing equally with your ISK.  You're playing because people with ISK allow you to play in exchange for services. That's it. Without them you wouldn't even be able to post right now, if you're a PLEX-kid. Fact.What a ridiculous topic. Sure, if your tunnel view is narrow enough then a bit of a cat looks just like a bit of a tiger. And a really narrow view on a rock can't be distinguished from a really narrow view on a mountain.
Dawwww did you get angry over loosing an argument and try and regain your pride by calling those who beat you stupid, shouting 'You'll see! You'll all see!!!!!' shaking you're fist and running off in a huff?
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Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.18 16:19:00 -
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Pay to win means having an ingame advantage that can ONLY be acquired through out of game means i.e. gold ammo etc.
There is nothing in eve that can not be acquired with in game money, therefor there is no pay to win.
If you don't like that you can play the game for free, or that people can invest money in what is for many a hobby rather than a game then there is a simple solution. Don't use the PLEX system. |
Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.18 16:37:00 -
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Zyress wrote:Cameron Cahill wrote:Zyress wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Zyress wrote:Ok the 16 mil sp character that someone bought doesn't have an advantage over another 16 mil sp character, but the week old player that bought a 16 mil sp character with RL money spent on plex does have an advantage over the week old character that didn't buy his character. It may not be PTW but its using out of games means to gain in game advantage. Call it what you will. I think of it as a cheat. there is nothing to stop the week old player from gaining in game isk and purchasing his own 16 mil sp alt? I'd be fine with that if the week old player that bought his 16 mil sp charcater had used ingame methods to get his plex but he didn't he used out of game methods, and thats a very savy player that at one week has figured out how to make the isk to buy a 16 mil sp character in game. Goon newbies do it every week, people are so keen to give their money away.... Well then maybe the players of this game aren't as smart as they like to say they are compared to other mmo players.
Most are. The ones who come from other mmos tend to be the easiest marks. |
Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.19 10:06:00 -
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Sabrina Solette wrote:Tippia wrote:destiny2 wrote:alts are great to have Sure. That's something quite different to what's being discussed here, though. Are alts necessary? No. Do they provide some kind of unique advantage that can't be had in other ways? No. There's no advantage having alts on one account as everyone has them even if they don't use the spaces. There is an advantage having two or more accounts. Can everyone have multiple account, no, why? Due to their personal circumstances. So I'd say multiple accounts are really a case of pay-to-win and play-to-win, but those that can't do either are stuffed. But there's many faces of EvE so if they can't compete in that way then there's always something else they can do. But that's all I'll say on this subject as I can't be arsed to get back into this debate tonight.
Everyone can do it because you can pay for these accounts with in game money hence not pay-to-win. |
Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.19 16:49:00 -
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EpicFailTroll wrote:EpicFailTroll wrote:Quoting EFT
"Since EFT has so generously graced y'all with this the juicy fruit of his ripe thoughts, he will of course not respond to snips and quotes, but will expect you to behave and discuss like grown human beings, that is, to properly construct sentences and paragraphs around your own ideas."
Power of 2 special offer returns!
The Power of 2 special offer is back! From now until Sunday, July 22, 2012, you will be able to create a new account with 180 days of game time for the low price of -ú34.99 or 3 PLEX.
Having that extra pilot at your disposal can often turn the tides on a difficult mission or shift a taxing task into a more efficient venture. A second account also means more places you can be at once, which makes monitoring the markets easier, gathering intel faster, and mining ops more productive. What if : - I cannot realistically PLEX it? - I want to fly solo and not use alts? - I don't fly solo, but have conflicting playtimes with my corpmates? - My corpmates don't want to be my market eyes? - My corpmates don't want to be my intel eyes? - Nobody wants to do it for isk - which I don't have enough of to PLEX- because it's boring What are my ingame options except alts?
If you can't do it that's you're fault not ours.
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